The Congrestional meetings July 2023

[Pigeon]

Summaries people posted on Reddit
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All witnesses were questioned under oath; all are senior intelligence or military members

1. They have much more specifics that can only be shared behind closed doors with congress members (due to security clearances)
2. We have multiple-sensor kinematics, videography, and photography of many UAPs
3. Witness demurred when asked if there have been murders as part of cover-up
4. Witnesses described "No evidence of UAP" statement as inaccurate
5. Unable to defend against them whatsoever
6. They are common, and there is now standard pre-flight briefings when pilots are encountering UAPs (military)
7. Their capabilities exceed anything possible now or in the next ten years
8. There are active crash retrieval and reverse-engineering programs, and witnesses have given exact names, location, and photographic and sensor-based evidence to congress in closed sessions
9. Biological material has been retrieved
10. Humans have been injured in the process of engineering/ retrieval
11. The programs are paid for via misappropriated funds; private companies will overcharge the USG, with the excess going to these programs
12. Both humans and UAPs have harmed human witnesses
13. Witness could not describe in open setting besides describing what he and his wife personally saw as "exceptionally disturbing"
14. Witness demurred when asked if there has been formal contact between USG and UAPs
15. There are active retaliation efforts by senior leaders of intelligence and military community, including harsh reprisals; currently an open whistleblower reprisal investigation for one of witnesses
16. It's possible that UAPs are conducting reconnaissance, probing capabilities, and have an interest in our nuclear capabilities specifically
17. Private companies have retaliated against commercial pilots reporting by issuing C&Ds
18. Specifically do not call it extra-terrestrials, they're non-human intelligence to avoid speculating origin
19. When asked if other foreign powers have safety measures to mitigate risk of escalatory situation in the event of UAP malevolence, witnesses confirmed there is existing agreements recently declassified that had been appended to previous nuclear treaties
20. Capable of jamming radar that no other adversaries can

[Pigeon]

Summary of Congressional Oversight Committee hearing 7/26/23:

We have on the record now that we have recovered spacecraft and "non human biologics." Gruschs interview with news nation is now part of the record.

Grusch was pretty tight lipped and wanted a closed door meeting to give the juicy details he has. He did mention that we have on video shooting down a UAP. He mentioned someone was hurt while reverse engineering them. He said he has no knowledge that any crafts we retrieved were crashed crafts made or flown by the US.

He said we have had crafts since the 1930s. He said people have been killed or hinted people were killed or harmed related to disclosure of this information. He said he and his wife were threatened.

He said government UAP organizations were being funded either from misappropriation of funds or government contractors and contractors are involved as well.

Other guys who both personally saw UAPs in F-18s said their planes did not have capability to shoot down or defend themselves from the crafts they saw. One said one was a red cube in a round sphere. One said it jammed his radar but came up on ship radars. One testified on the tic tac one he saw in San Diego.

They said we don't have any technology remotely close or 10 to 20 years out that can duplicate what they did. They said they defied the laws of physics as we know it. One said a UAP came within 50 feet of two of his pilots and they would have been informed of a joint exercise from another agency and indicated it was not from another agency.

One said there was a 100 yd long UAP that showed up at a Boeing plant. He said there were incidents would kind of mess with people and fly close to them and fly to them.

They both said there is no clear path to report these incidents to. One said 95% of government sightings could be unreported. No way for commercial pilots to report sightings.

They said we needed a set agency where these incidents and data could be reported to and collected with a hint NASA should take it on. They also discussed a more uniform way for whistleblowers to be able to come forward and be protected.

Both sides of Congress seemed very motivated to have more over sight and disclosure and get information to this data they have been denied access to and obtain more witnesses.

[Pigeon]

A congressional bipartisan hearing on UAPs (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) was held on 7/26/23. There were three witnesses who testified under oath:

1. Ryan Graves, an F18 pilot with 10 yrs of service including a part in Operation Enduring Freedom, who was voicing concerns of 30 other pilots as well as his personal concerns about UAPs
2. David Grusch, a US Intelligence officer for 14 yrs, Air Force member, Major in the International guard, and member of the national geospace intelligence agency. Grusch became a whistleblower through a PAD19 urgent filing in 2022 and reported to his superiors as well as the Inspector General (IG) that the US govt is operating in secrecy without congressional oversight
3. David Fravor, Retired commander US navy, who had an encounter with a UAP in 2004 (USS Nimitz) - part of squadron 41, the Black Aces
   Some of the UAP’s these people have encountered or have reports of include:
4. Dark (gray or black) cube in a clear sphere that has no wings, propulsion system, or heat signature. Multiple (many?) contacts with this kind of object over years, especially the last 8 years. One of these was sighted at the entrance to an air force operation area (somewhere) hovering in midair with no propulsion. A pilot came within 50 ft of that object and then they scrubbed the mission when the object zoomed out of sight. Graves spoke to the pilot post-mission (he was the commander).
5. From Fravor, 2004 - a Tic Tac shaped object (2004) also with no wings, seams (one big piece), rivets, wings, or propulsion system that came from 80000 feet (SPACE!!!), hing out for hours at 20000 feet and then returned to space and had been doing this for 2 weeks. There was also whitewater below the object, unsure why. Joked that the tic tac might be talking to something. The tictac aligned itself with Fravor’s aircraft and continued to climb with them at about 12000-15000 feet. As they came in close (half a mile away) the object suddenly vanished. It reappeared 16 miles away in less than a minute.
6. At Vanderberg Air Force base (now Space Force Base) in 2003 - a large group of Boeing contractors observed a large, 100-yd, red square approach the base from the ocean, hover over low altitude, remain for 45 sec and then darted over mountains in AM. In PM of same day, other sightings of red squares, including aggressive behaviors approaching security guards at rapid speeds before heading off.

[Pigeon]

• 7. Evidence exists of four craft in a clear diamond formation - a radar sequence exists (Gaetz). One pilot goes to check out and sees a large floating orb. His radar went down, FLIR camera malfunctioned, had to manually take an image from one of the lenses. Multiple accounts of these things affecting our radar and camera systems. Gaetz also says the GIMBAL video (released in 2017 when declassified by Govt) only shows one craft but there were more in a formation there. Traditional flying saucer shaped.

According to these three witnesses:

1. Sightings of UAP (visually, radar, and pictures/video) are so frequent in military settings that air crew would discuss how to deal with UAP in their pre-flight briefs. Commercial/airline pilots also see UAP’s and contact the Air Force on how to deal with them. There is no current standardized system to report UAP’s, especially commercially.
2. UAP’s move in ways that violate our understanding of the laws of physics, such as instant 90 degree turns, moving 10000 miles in a matter of seconds, going into and out of our atmosphere, matching speed, etc. To the witness’ knowledge, no one on Earth has this technology. There are a variety of theories being discussed about how UAP work, including some involving string theory, other planes/dimensions...
3. Grusch claims the US Government has been aware of NHI and UAP’s since the 1930’s and that the US Government is operating a multi-decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program that is still active and operates without congressional oversight. Grusch said he would be able to name specific corporations that were friendly and unfriendly to the investigation. Grusch was denied access to the data from this program, which is unusual because he had access to all classifications of top secret data. In public, Grusch refused to discuss whether the US Government has had contact with ET’s.
4. Also according to Grusch, there is an active disinformation campaign to discredit UAP’s by the US Government. More information is available in Grusch’s NewsNation interview. The witnesses estimate that 95% of UAP sightings go unreported as a combination of a disinformation campaign and a lack of a way to report sightings. According to Grusch, different congressional members have different levels of knowledge about UAP’s.
5. The US Government is currently in possession of UAP’s as well as biological specimens (bodies?) from crashes. Grusch maintains that all pilots can make a mistake, hence crashes happen sometimes.
6. Grusch has interviewed people with 1st hand knowledge of Non Human Intelligent craft. NHI is better than ET (extraterrestrial) as a term because we don’t know where they come from. All 3 witnesses have seen UAP’s do things they can’t explain through physics.
7. US Aerospace corporations are siphoning government funds in order to further black site projects (money supposed to go somewhere else but actually funds black site projects). Aerospace companies are overcharging the government for their products and that $$$ is also going to black site projects. These corporations and individuals are using IRAD (independent research and development) to get this money because there’s no oversight. A group of career senior exec. officials both inside and outside of government make these decisions on where the money actually goes. There is no requirement for private sector/companies to report UAP’s and when some do “report” it may actually go in the trash can. Grusch will supply a specific list of “friendly” companies to the UAP investigation and “unfriendly” companies that seek to hinder it.
8. Whistleblowers (including Grusch) have experienced retaliation for their actions both personally and professionally.
9. Multiple colleagues of Grusch have been injured BOTH by UAPs and by people in the Federal Government over the UAP issue. Possibly murder, but classified. Grusch and his wife personally witnessed something very disturbing.
10. It is possible that the UAP’s are probing our capabilities, testing vulnerabilities, are interested in our nuclear capabilities, and we would be defenseless against them. They may represent an existential threat to the security of the US.
11. Grusch can’t confirm publicly if the US Energy dept is involved in a public setting (classified).
12. Grusch mentioned that specific treaties (such as the armed treaty with Russia) mention UAPs. He pointed to the UN Public Treaty of 1971 - an unclassified treaty in the George Washington Univ natl security archives from 2013. There exists (in the treaty) redline flash message traffic (meaning language that overrides ALL other language in the treaty) with specific codes pursuant to article 3 and situation. Specific incidents where that message traffic was used was not available.

[Pigeon]

Do a number of people now meet their end in order to still keep this stuff covered up?

Gotta wonder if the ocean is filled with ET stuff.

[Pigeon]

A dead email box that government contractors are given to send their bullshit so they can say "well we sent it to the appropriate channels"

[Royal]

Do a number of people now meet their end in order to still keep this stuff covered up?

Gotta wonder if the ocean is filled with ET stuff.

After analyzing the mountain and UFO data, skinwalker ranch, and other data, lore, these things go right through ground too. I believe these things may be operating all around us. Possibly our admins. The UFO hotspots may be visual leaks, to the other side, due to Earth or other phenomenon, and/or a communication pathway they took interest in after humans took interest in opening those doors.

[Royal]

The leaks due to a frequency, a point in the simulation tagged as the environment, the Universe may be confusing clients or environment for brief moments of time. The environment signature is based on on a specific code. Changes by a human or human activity may break the code and be forced to use a baseline signature. The baseline signature is momentarily vulnerable to leaks to other worlds. Earth's gravitational anomalies may further encourage these baseline fallback signatures and continue leaving leaks.


Example:
1. Universe holds two dimensions - 1 environment fall back signature for small geo location.

2. Two dimensions contain users that customize therr worlds, momentarily breaking baseline, eventually creating two unique signatures (Ex. clearing demons from room)


-----Hypothesis , not a belief.

[Royal]

IT's possible that the other side may be more tuned to these holographic leaks, or can cause electromagnetic phenomenon, and lesser groups of their civilization attempting to communicate.

But if they have some kind of benefit from the cross-over, they would infiltrate the world and keep the crossing quiet.

A multidimensional existence or VM's that experience leaks to each other's petri dish may account for all the types of ships and vast differences in the alien's biological characteristics.

[Royal]

Perhaps, there's some Chaos with the government telling the world, "we are in a petri dish" or , call your "local Alien admin today through meditation for further information"