Alien origins on Zeta I and Zeta II Reticuli questioned

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Alien origins on Zeta I and Zeta II Reticuli questioned

Post by lkwalker » Sun Apr 24, 2011 11:48 am

This from Kevin Randle. Interesting observation. Is Marjorie Fish's map out of date?

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2011/04 ... again.html
Wednesday, April 06, 2011
The Betty Hill Star Map - Revisited, Again

I was reading an article by John A. Johnson in the latest Sky & Telescope (which suggests something about my eclectic interests) and was struck by his opening comments. He suggested that an alien astronomer searching for Jupiter-like planets would not be inclined to look at our solar system. And, he mentioned that if you were searching for small, rocky planets, then you would be more likely to find those orbiting dwarf stars.

What has this to do with us, you might ask.

Glad you did. See, back in the 1970s Marjorie Fish, in attempting to find the star system from which the abductors of Barney and Betty Hill originated, made a model of our section of the galaxy. She assumed, and I’m not sure that it was a bad assumption at that time, that those aliens’ home world would be close to us, galactically speaking. They probably didn’t come from a world across the galaxy, though when we begin to speak of interstellar flight, we really have nothing on which to base our assumptions. Once you have solved the problems of interstellar travel, the distances, however great, might not mean all that much. We just don’t know.

But I digress...

When Fish put together her model, she ignored the red dwarf stars because there were so many of them in the vicinity of Earth and they probably didn’t have anything interesting going on around them anyway. Astronomic thinking at that time suggested that dwarf stars wouldn’t have planetary systems. We now know there are planets circling many of these stars.

What all this means, simply, is that the Fish model, and the conclusion that some of the aliens originate from Zeta I and Zeta II Reticuli has been superceded by better information. The evidence that suggested this is no longer accurate. Fish needed to include those dwarf stars in her models.

Again, this isn’t a criticism of the work done by Fish. At the time she constructed her models and did her research, she had the best information available. In today’s world we know that some of her basic assumptions were wrong.

And I haven’t even mentioned that the newest star catalogs have revised the distances to some of the stars that she did use and that earlier information has been found to be inaccurate. In other words, some of the stars that she included in her survey are now outside the parameters that Fish set.

This means that we can no longer say, with any degree of certainty, with any degree of confidence, that the Zeta Reticuli system is the home of any alien race. Until this research is redone, we can no longer say that we know where some of the aliens originate. The evidence just is no longer there.
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Re: Alien origins on Zeta I and Zeta II Reticuli questioned

Post by Pigeon » Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:03 pm

This means that we can no longer say, with any degree of certainty, with any degree of confidence, that the Zeta Reticuli system is the home of any alien race
Don't see how it could be said, with any degree of certainty, in the first place.

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Re: Alien origins on Zeta I and Zeta II Reticuli questioned

Post by lkwalker » Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:05 pm

Get ye behind me, Satan.
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Re: Alien origins on Zeta I and Zeta II Reticuli questioned

Post by TraumaT » Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:05 pm

Pigeon wrote:
This means that we can no longer say, with any degree of certainty, with any degree of confidence, that the Zeta Reticuli system is the home of any alien race
Don't see how it could be said, with any degree of certainty, in the first place.
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Re: Alien origins on Zeta I and Zeta II Reticuli questioned

Post by lkwalker » Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:08 pm

Abandon faith all ye who enter here. This is the Alien Forum.
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Re: Alien origins on Zeta I and Zeta II Reticuli questioned

Post by TraumaT » Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:10 pm

lkwalker wrote:Abandon faith all ye who enter here. This is the Alien Forum.
Abandon faith? I thougth faith was the only thing needed to enter here.

It's not like you need common sense or anything.

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Post by lkwalker » Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:13 pm

common sense is overrated.
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Re: Alien origins on Zeta I and Zeta II Reticuli questioned

Post by TraumaT » Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:22 pm

lkwalker wrote:common sense is overrated.
Religious fundamentalists are the best proof that faith and beliefs are the most overrated of all.

People with common sense do not bomb and shoot and murder each other because their God is better than another God, it says so in a book.

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Post by lkwalker » Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:44 pm

I've asked jonlear to join us. I suspect he'll be here shortly.
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Re: Alien origins on Zeta I and Zeta II Reticuli questioned

Post by Pigeon » Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:47 pm

My god beat up your god - A bumper sticker seen on the back of a Toyota technical in Africa.

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