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New Parameters for Life

Post by Pana » Sat Nov 26, 2011 4:14 am

U.S. scientists have come up with two new tools to determine which moons and planets in the universe are most likely to harbour alien life.

And they have used those tools to rank many other planets and moons in the solar system, as well as some planets in other parts of the universe. Their results are published in the journal Astrobiology.

Plugging in parameters such as a planet's mass, radius, and average temperature generates a series of measures in the Earth Similarity Index, which "provides a quick screening tool with which to detect exoplanets most similar to Earth," said Dirk Schulze-Makuch, an astrobiologist at Washington State University in Pullman, Wash., in a statement.

He added that scientists know empirically that Earth-like conditions can support life.

But the researchers noted that some conditions that aren't Earth-like — such as those found in oily lakes on Titan, a moon of Saturn — could theoretically also be conducive to life — albeit not the kind we are most familiar with.

In order to flag planets with those types of conditions, the scientists came up with the Planetary Habitability Index, which assumes a more general set of conditions are needed for life:

A stable and protected substrate, but not necessarily the rocky surface found on Earth.
Energy, although the main source doesn't need to be light from a Sun-like star.
Chemistry that allows large, chain-like molecules to be built, but not necessarily the carbon-based chemistry on Earth.
A liquid medium, but not necessarily water.


"The disadvantage of this approach is that it is intrinsically more speculative," the researchers wrote. "The alternative, however, to miss habitable worlds due to restricted assumptions would be self-defeating."

Continued here: http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story ... -life.html

Care to speculate on what kind of substrate, energy, Chemistry and liquid medium that would entail? I'm quite interested in this.
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Re: New Parameters for Life

Post by lkwalker » Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:49 pm

anything at all will do. As long as things have a medium to stick them together life shall arise. It's a principle.
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Re: New Parameters for Life

Post by Pigeon » Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:55 pm

I figure humans really don't know the real parameters for life so we have a short sighted theory. I would not be surprised to find that life can jump start itself almost anywhere out of almost anything.

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Re: New Parameters for Life

Post by lkwalker » Sat Nov 26, 2011 2:27 pm

seems to me we just said the same thing. hahahaha
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Re: New Parameters for Life

Post by Pigeon » Sat Nov 26, 2011 2:44 pm

Ya, after I posted I saw that we were saying much the same.

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Re: New Parameters for Life

Post by Pigeon » Sat Nov 26, 2011 2:54 pm

NASA is launching a new Mars car thing today. Wonder if it will make it there.

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Re: New Parameters for Life

Post by Dr Exile » Sun Nov 27, 2011 2:37 am

What sorts of idiots design their crap? "Weez guna look for life" but nothing on board looks for life. Just evidence of a possibility of past life.

Dr. Gil Levin found life on Mars 35 years ago, but the poo poo heads poo pooed him.
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Re: New Parameters for Life

Post by WatchDog » Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:07 pm

what ive read is that there is water on many of the moons in our solar system, and that could mean there is life, but what kind of life it would be im not sure of
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Re: New Parameters for Life

Post by Pana » Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:16 pm

What would make up a stable substrate if not rock/minerals? Ice? Does it have to be solid to be considered a substrate?
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