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Russia and Syria

Post by Royal » Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:04 pm

The Syrian port city of Tartus hosts a Soviet-era naval supply and maintenance base, under a 1971 agreement with Syria. The base was established during the Cold War to support the Soviet Navy's fleet in the Mediterranean Sea. Since Russia forgave Syria of three-fourths, or $9.8 billion, of its $13.4 billion Soviet-era debt and became its main arms supplier, Russia and Syria have conducted talks about allowing Russia to develop and enlarge its naval base, so that Russia can strengthen its naval presence in the Mediterranean.[4] Amid Russia's deteriorating relations with the West, because of the 2008 South Ossetia War‎ and plans to deploy a US missile defense shield in Poland, President Assad agreed to the port’s conversion into a permanent Middle East base for Russia’s nuclear-armed warships.[5] Since 2009, Russia has been renovating the Tartus naval base and dredging the port to allow access for its larger naval vessels.

Syria for the past few years has reached out to Russia to obtain modern weapons that included many modern anti-tank and anti-air missile systems that will further improve its combat capabilities. In 2008, Syria agreed to purchase MiG-29SMT fighters, Pantsir S1E air-defense systems, Iskander tactical missile systems, Yak-130 aircraft, and two Amur-1650 submarines from Russia. Russia's foreign minister said his country's sale of weapons to Syria would not upset the balance of power in the Middle East. The sales he stated are "in line with the international law" and "in the interests of strengthening stability and maintaining security" in regions close to Russian borders, Sergei Lavrov told reporters during a visit to the United Nations in New York.[7] As of 2011, Syria's arms contracts with Russia were worth at least $4 billion.[8][9] Dmitri Trenin reports in the New York Times that from 2000 to 2010 Russia sold around $1.5 billion worth of arms to Syria, making Damascus Moscow’s seventh-largest client.


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Re: Russia and Syria

Post by Pigeon » Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:39 pm

How many in Syria are dirt poor. At least they will be blown to bit efficiently.

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Re: Russia and Syria

Post by Royal » Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:56 pm

Syrian Hot Fusion Device

Enables Syrians of different religious sects to go to war and blow themselves up to bits without excessive military spending.

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Re: Russia and Syria

Post by Royal » Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:02 am

“We’re dealing here with a region in which all of these issues are interconnected.”
“If we act simply on the basis of emotion and sort of vague threats that the Russians have to be forced to be good boys, we are going to produce a region-wide outbreak in which the issues within Syria will become linked with a conflict between the Saudis and the Shiites, Iraq will become destabilized, Iran will be involved.”
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/06/07 ... -on-syria/

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Re: Russia and Syria

Post by Pigeon » Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:44 pm

maybe the middle east with destory itself without much outside help other than agitation.

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Re: Russia and Syria

Post by Royal » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:18 pm

The Obama administration said Tuesday that Russia is sending attack helicopters to Syrian President Bashar Assad's regime and warned that the Arab country's 15-month conflict could become even deadlier.

Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said the U.S. was "concerned about the latest information we have that there are attack helicopters on the way from Russia to Syria." She said the shipment "will escalate the conflict quite dramatically."
Clinton's comments at a public appearance with Israeli President Shimon Peres augured poorly for a peaceful solution to Syria's conflict.

Officials from around the world are warning that the violence risks becoming an all-out civil war, with Middle East power brokers from Iran to Turkey possibly being drawn into the fighting. Diplomatic hopes have rested on Washington and Moscow agreeing on a transition plan that would end the 4-decade-long Assad regime.

But Moscow has consistently rejected outside forces to end the conflict or any international plan to force regime change in Damascus. Despite withering criticism from the West, it insists that any arms it supplies to Syria are not being used to quell anti-government dissent.

With diplomacy at a standstill, the reported shipment of helicopters suggests a dangerous new turn for Syria after more than a year of harsh government crackdowns on mainly peaceful protests and the emergence of an increasingly organized armed insurgency.
Russia and Syria have a longstanding military relationship and Syria hosts Russia's only naval base on the Mediterranean Sea. But in light of the brutal violence, the U.S. has repeatedly demanded that any further deliveries of weaponry be halted. Russian military support in the form of materiel as advanced as attack helicopters would deal a serious blow to efforts to starve the Syrian army of supplies.

Some 13,000 people have died, according to opposition groups, but the U.S. and its allies have been hoping that sanctions on Assad's government and its increased isolation would make it increasingly difficult to carry out military campaigns.
On Monday, State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland decried what she called "horrific new tactics" by Syrian forces, including the use of helicopters to fire on civilians from the air. She called the attacks a "very serious escalation" and said Syrian commanders would be held responsible for any crimes against humanity.

Clinton, as well, warned about a massing of Syrian forces near Aleppo over the last two days, saying such a deployment could be a "red line" for Syria's northern neighbor Turkey "in terms of their strategic and national interests."
"We are watching this very carefully," she said.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/06 ... z1xbjiOiUq


And the CIA will send ground to air missiles and train insurgents? This movie looks familiar.

The difference is Israel and Iran have closer ties to this region. Which can make the first World Proxy War.

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Re: Russia and Syria

Post by Pigeon » Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:21 am

"it insists that any arms it supplies to Syria are not being used to quell anti-government dissent. "

Hmmm, what else are they going to use them for if the locals are revolting against the government.

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Re: Russia and Syria

Post by Royal » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:17 am

Pigeon wrote:
Hmmm, what else are they going to use them for if the locals are revolting against the government.
Transport meds to the elderly.

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Re: Russia and Syria

Post by Pigeon » Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:34 pm

Russia and Iran helping the Syrian government, other Arabs nations helping the rebels. Looks like a good mix for a real big kaboom. Ans an aftermath of weapon in everyone's hands when it is all over.

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Re: Russia and Syria

Post by Royal » Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:11 pm

-Russia accuses the US of sending weapons.

-Hillary Clinton said today we are only sending medical supplies. :)

-Fox News said "Proxy war" 5 times in 30 seconds.

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